I stopped listening to the radio once the internet came along. I think once I wasn't living on my own and had other stuff to entertain me, I didn't see the point. It's not like you need an actual radio anymore, but it's the music and the presenters these days who've put me right off.
I loved the old presenters on the one station I bothered listening to. Before it was broadcast in our country town, we had to live with commercial radio, and I'd be up late with my radio playing quietly, stupidly hearing the Pina Colada song so often I know it pretty well. It was just noise. But by 1997 we were able to pick up the only rock station with any remote credibility. It was the same station that told me Phil Hartman had died in May of '98, the same station that let one third of the Doug Anthony All Stars and a weird comedy performer present their breakfast show. We liked the music they played, it wasn't a commercial station and we had it on most of the time we weren't listening to our own albums. But the best thing was this was all pre-social media, so we didn't have the unwashed masses tweeting or hashtagging direct to the presenters. You had to hang on the line to make a request or answer questions. You had to fax and mail entries for competitions. There was some control and no instant gratification. Now if I choose to listen to this station I have to be prepared to put up with over-excited presenters who sound really insincere. I have to listen to the unwashed masses if they have an opinion. And I'm only here for the music. They're replaying 1998's Hottest 100. So I'll have to tune out the speaking interludes of them discussing the compilation album cover art or to other's nostalgia over certain songs.
I just showed up for the playlist.
Sunday, 27 January 2019
Friday, 25 January 2019
Breaking Bad and Moving On. (With Addition after El Camino)
I enjoyed Breaking Bad. It's not a show I would watch regularly, since it's such an emotional slog. And I don't know if the writers had the ending we got in mind from the beginning. Jessie was supposed to die at the end of season one, but wound up being such a compelling character he was basically the other star of the show and worth continuing his story. I wasn't a Skyler hater but I got why people hated her. I think I hated Marie more, and Hank becoming the ultimate bad guy for Walt and dying in the end made for really amazing tension in the final season. Even with its below average episodes and weaker story lines, it was still a solid show.
But is it a solid show that needs a movie? I don't think so.
Jessie riding off into the sunset as Walt lays dying was a perfect ending. Do we need to see Jessie's life now? Maybe he's gone nuts. He's been tortured and he's lost everything but the freedom he has at the end is exhilarating. Walt kind of smiling up at us from the floor of the lab with the house full of bullet riddled bodies close by, perfect. He's free in his own way. He's going to die from cancer anyway. Do we need to see him in jail? Maybe you do. Maybe some people needed him to face the consequences beyond losing his family. And do we need to see his family now living in witness protection? I think that'd be boring. I'd make a show about the daughter Holly growing up to find out about her dad and going off the rails, and maybe she tracks Jessie down to learn the truth and he goes mental.
I love seeing Mike in Better Call Saul, and I thought I'd hate the show. The pilot felt fan servicey AF, but the development of Jimmy and Kim, and watching Kim persistently surprising you with how she reacts to Jimmy's schemes, how she's so strong and compelling but so human in her love for Jimmy which we often don't believe due to her moments of coldness - it's a fucking joy to see. Throw all the awards at this woman, honestly she's become one of my favourite actresses. She's perfectly nuanced, wanting to do shit by the book but getting a rush from breaking the rules for the greater good, hoping it's what she and Jimmy will do in the long run. Her inner conflict over how they take down Howard is conveyed so perfectly in her subtle mannerisms whenever she watches Howard spiraling. She never gives herself away to anyone. And you know she disappears, but she's not like Skyler, which I imagine people were expecting. You see Jimmy's lack of personal confidence making him paranoid about her never believing in him and surpassing him professionally until she walks out on him. He's trashing the best thing in his life and now we can see it truly coming undone. Playing this out over a series is perfect. I wouldn't want to see a movie of this.
And I don't think a Breaking Bad movie is totally necessary. I love how it ended. There was a conclusion, it wasn't a cliffhanger and it wasn't all that ambiguous. I was satisfied. Apparently, not everyone was.
Cut to October 2019
I'm going to add my massive addendum here and say I take just about all of this back after having seen El Camino, that just dropped on Netflix without a lot of fanfare which is great. I saw an Instagram post thinking this was coming out in a month. Nope. It's here. And it's pretty great. Jesse was deserving of a proper ending and I think taking a strange kind of haphazard Kill Bill narrative with Jesse inadvertently getting revenge on the other men involved directly or indirectly in his captivity was a great move. We get to hang with Badger and Skinny Pete but we're not overloaded with their contribution, they kind of get their own redemption of sorts. And the "flashbacks" of scenes we weren't privy to but that shaped Jesse's character and motivations were handled so well, I didn't feel like Walt or Jane or Mike were forced into the script in any way. It felt very natural to have a kind of flashback/forward narrative. Aaron Paul really is masterful here showing Jesse's transformation as reformed criminal while still effortlessly giving us the Jesse we all came to love. The major problem I noticed was his teeth were way too white for someone who'd been in a cage in the ground for months but that's literally the biggest and most pointless gripe I had. And I wasn't even really watching it attentively I was slipping in and out but still captivated enough, however I will watch it again, perhaps after giving the series another run through. In fact, it might be more fun to watch now. I think I've forgotten a lot more than I thought since I had to be jogged about certain characters. Otherwise it was a good way to give justice to a character that did really need a better ending. Admittedly I spoiled a moment for myself seeing someone in the cast list. And the instagram post also spoiled the ending for me but fuck it, I didn't really mind. I want to think between this and Better Call Saul we'll see a fitting send off for the three unlikely amigos, I think Jimmy really deserves to have his own moment of glory after hitting rock bottom but I feel like it'll end with Jimmy just accepting his new life in some capacity. Or falling on his sword. It'd be really beautiful if we cut ahead and find Kim stumbling across him but I think the implication is she's well and truly gone and he doesn't deserve to have her back. Even if it ended with bygones that'd be nice.
But the Breaking Bad saga is over for me and I think trying to do any kind of other spin off or rehash would actually be a mistake. It's just nice to know this movie wasn't. It's more like a cinematic extended episode you're not following any other characters and you hear the fate of people like Lydia through radio and television news. Bringing Jesse's parents back in was also a nice touch. I think it's sweeter to imagine Jesse at forty in the same white knit sweater, on a fishing boat off the coast of Alaska, smiling off into the distance, than it is to see him stark raving mad on the run. I like they didn't bring Skyler and the kids back into it. A street sign ends up being the only real nod I saw to them. (I just finished reading a very stupid ABC article on it that had to remind people of shit they should already know and didn't feature many "easter eggs" and I think that street sign was one of them and they missed it so.... There's another article making really tenuous links as well in that classic "this coulda been a reference to X episode in Y season but we're fuckin' reaching and need to fill our clickbait quota for the day- though they picked up the street sign reference too.) Whatever. It worked. Vince is a champ, it was cute he got to have a little standoff put in as well. I enjoyed it. Nothing I said above back in January turned out right and I'm glad.
But is it a solid show that needs a movie? I don't think so.
Jessie riding off into the sunset as Walt lays dying was a perfect ending. Do we need to see Jessie's life now? Maybe he's gone nuts. He's been tortured and he's lost everything but the freedom he has at the end is exhilarating. Walt kind of smiling up at us from the floor of the lab with the house full of bullet riddled bodies close by, perfect. He's free in his own way. He's going to die from cancer anyway. Do we need to see him in jail? Maybe you do. Maybe some people needed him to face the consequences beyond losing his family. And do we need to see his family now living in witness protection? I think that'd be boring. I'd make a show about the daughter Holly growing up to find out about her dad and going off the rails, and maybe she tracks Jessie down to learn the truth and he goes mental.
I love seeing Mike in Better Call Saul, and I thought I'd hate the show. The pilot felt fan servicey AF, but the development of Jimmy and Kim, and watching Kim persistently surprising you with how she reacts to Jimmy's schemes, how she's so strong and compelling but so human in her love for Jimmy which we often don't believe due to her moments of coldness - it's a fucking joy to see. Throw all the awards at this woman, honestly she's become one of my favourite actresses. She's perfectly nuanced, wanting to do shit by the book but getting a rush from breaking the rules for the greater good, hoping it's what she and Jimmy will do in the long run. Her inner conflict over how they take down Howard is conveyed so perfectly in her subtle mannerisms whenever she watches Howard spiraling. She never gives herself away to anyone. And you know she disappears, but she's not like Skyler, which I imagine people were expecting. You see Jimmy's lack of personal confidence making him paranoid about her never believing in him and surpassing him professionally until she walks out on him. He's trashing the best thing in his life and now we can see it truly coming undone. Playing this out over a series is perfect. I wouldn't want to see a movie of this.
And I don't think a Breaking Bad movie is totally necessary. I love how it ended. There was a conclusion, it wasn't a cliffhanger and it wasn't all that ambiguous. I was satisfied. Apparently, not everyone was.
Cut to October 2019
I'm going to add my massive addendum here and say I take just about all of this back after having seen El Camino, that just dropped on Netflix without a lot of fanfare which is great. I saw an Instagram post thinking this was coming out in a month. Nope. It's here. And it's pretty great. Jesse was deserving of a proper ending and I think taking a strange kind of haphazard Kill Bill narrative with Jesse inadvertently getting revenge on the other men involved directly or indirectly in his captivity was a great move. We get to hang with Badger and Skinny Pete but we're not overloaded with their contribution, they kind of get their own redemption of sorts. And the "flashbacks" of scenes we weren't privy to but that shaped Jesse's character and motivations were handled so well, I didn't feel like Walt or Jane or Mike were forced into the script in any way. It felt very natural to have a kind of flashback/forward narrative. Aaron Paul really is masterful here showing Jesse's transformation as reformed criminal while still effortlessly giving us the Jesse we all came to love. The major problem I noticed was his teeth were way too white for someone who'd been in a cage in the ground for months but that's literally the biggest and most pointless gripe I had. And I wasn't even really watching it attentively I was slipping in and out but still captivated enough, however I will watch it again, perhaps after giving the series another run through. In fact, it might be more fun to watch now. I think I've forgotten a lot more than I thought since I had to be jogged about certain characters. Otherwise it was a good way to give justice to a character that did really need a better ending. Admittedly I spoiled a moment for myself seeing someone in the cast list. And the instagram post also spoiled the ending for me but fuck it, I didn't really mind. I want to think between this and Better Call Saul we'll see a fitting send off for the three unlikely amigos, I think Jimmy really deserves to have his own moment of glory after hitting rock bottom but I feel like it'll end with Jimmy just accepting his new life in some capacity. Or falling on his sword. It'd be really beautiful if we cut ahead and find Kim stumbling across him but I think the implication is she's well and truly gone and he doesn't deserve to have her back. Even if it ended with bygones that'd be nice.
But the Breaking Bad saga is over for me and I think trying to do any kind of other spin off or rehash would actually be a mistake. It's just nice to know this movie wasn't. It's more like a cinematic extended episode you're not following any other characters and you hear the fate of people like Lydia through radio and television news. Bringing Jesse's parents back in was also a nice touch. I think it's sweeter to imagine Jesse at forty in the same white knit sweater, on a fishing boat off the coast of Alaska, smiling off into the distance, than it is to see him stark raving mad on the run. I like they didn't bring Skyler and the kids back into it. A street sign ends up being the only real nod I saw to them. (I just finished reading a very stupid ABC article on it that had to remind people of shit they should already know and didn't feature many "easter eggs" and I think that street sign was one of them and they missed it so.... There's another article making really tenuous links as well in that classic "this coulda been a reference to X episode in Y season but we're fuckin' reaching and need to fill our clickbait quota for the day- though they picked up the street sign reference too.) Whatever. It worked. Vince is a champ, it was cute he got to have a little standoff put in as well. I enjoyed it. Nothing I said above back in January turned out right and I'm glad.
Friday, 11 January 2019
Twin Peaks, The Missing Pieces and Bobby and Shelly: Doomed to Fail.
I've barely explained how I came to be so in love with Twin Peaks, other than it was a show I saw when I was fifteen and wildly into abstract film, books and music. I watched the series, disappointed by the tragic ending for Cooper and the lack of a firm resolution. I knew of the prequel, Fire Walk With Me. I'd seen trailers in the video store. It was probably the first R rated movie I saw, and I wasn't quite 18 but I was allowed to watch it.
Laura Palmer is the type of character people resonated with so much they basically fell in love with her, much like Lynch did. Her dichotomy was so complex and not a total cliche, she was unique but still the embodiment of the All American Girl. She had a reason for exploring her darker nature: the darkness was out to devour her and by harnessing it she could possibly survive it. Until, in a sense, she didn't. Fire Walk With Me eventually ends with Cooper comforting her while her angel arrives, but in essence, they're both still confined. So Coop being trapped in the Lodge forever was something as a fan you never truly got over.
The rest of the town comes out of the original series to varying degrees of misery, bar one couple - Shelly and Bobby. You really had the sense they were going to survive despite her being a waitress and him being the high school football captain. You don't really know how they even got together, other than Bobby's "professional" relationship with Leo, you assume he got closer to Shelly through this but it's never explored. According to the wiki, she and Bobby dated in high school and after Bobby cheated with Laura, she took off and met Leo and married him. This is in the Final Dossier by the by, I suppose as a response to no one getting their backstory. Laura's diary states she and Bobby were together at 14 and he drifted towards Shelley but I won't split hairs. You just accept they're having an affair, they're hot as fuck, their chemistry is off the charts and you're rooting for them to make it. You know Bobby and Laura were never going to make it. And once she's gone, Bobby still goes through a process of mourning and surfacing trauma from all she made him do. Laura's diary hints she's aware of Bobby and Shelly, and she doesn't care as she's sleeping with Leo anyway and filling in for Shelly so there's no love lost. But I wanted them to make it. They survive Leo and Bobby's basic immaturity, you're happy for them.
But they don't make it.
Cut to 25 years later and much to everyone's astonishment, we're getting a new Twin Peaks. I should mention here receiving the Missing Pieces was such a gift after having read the original screenplay, as we'd been left to believe this footage would never be seen. Most of it was as close to how I imagined it, but we don't get much more of Cooper's fate beyond another minute from the script. So I should've known. We do see Annie's fate and the fate of the ring. But with the new series, no one knew what to expect and it was brilliant as it was frustrating.
We only discover the result of Audrey's accident in the bank through dialogue; that she's been in a coma and allegedly raped by Coop/Bob to produce a son who plays somewhat of an integral role. (It seems to be a fan theory). What drove me nuts was Ben Horne's involvement with Donna Hayward's mother and him being Donna's real father, not to mention him being possibly dead by the end of the second season, was all glossed over. Maybe I missed some dialogue but nothing comes of Doc Hayward's assault, he ends up Skyping Truman's replacement, (his brother - Side note, yup all this shit's in the Final Dossier.) Richard has decided to carry on the drug trafficking legacy of the town, associating with some shady guy that ironically Shelly is dating now she's left Bobby offscreen even though they've since had a daughter Becky, who's also been sucked into the cocaine crowd in town and is in her own abusive relationship, Shelly playing a bleeding heart and letting her get away with shit. I was genuinely disappointed they failed to survive, even with Bobby becoming so law-abiding he ends up working for the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department. Mark Frost stated they divorced amicably after drifting apart, thus proving young love is doomed to end in tragedy.
And while you thought Hank would be stuck with Nadine forever, she has an about-face, shovels her way out of the shit thanks to Jacoby, who's gone bonkers, and lets Hank go. He immediately proposes to Norma and they live happily ever after. That was a nice moment, and you see Jacoby and Nadine have a moment that suggests they'll both end up alright in the long run. I like to think they both take off in his Winnebago and have some weird nonsexual, platonic companionship in their golden years. Nadine was a complicated character, you felt for Hank when she snapped out of her dumb delusional state she was a teenager and in love with Mike. Oh, and Mike ends up working in an employment office. That's about it for him. I think Lynch had enough sympathy for Nadine to not hang her out to dry. You think her watching Jacoby's rants is going to end in disaster and not an epiphany, and he had a certain affection for Norma and Hank not to leave them apart any longer.
The Return was a roller-coaster as we followed Coop's odyssey from the Lodge. We all kinda fell for Dougie Jones so it was nice he was kind of left behind to live with Diane's half sister. (I didn't even really pick up that was who she was in relation to the show. I didn't think she necessarily needed that obvious a link to anything. She was just some beleaguered wife living in Las Vegas who knows her husband is a gambler and a liar. I liked she just accepted the new Dougie and that Cooper did genuinely come to love her in his own weird way but obviously couldn't stay with her.)
I don't think we were meant to get a conclusive ending for Cooper. Just seeing him wake from his coma and that he's left the Lodge was a beautiful moment, even if he basically goes back in looking for Laura. Him trying to "save" her from that moment was eerily romantic and heartbreaking too. But we're left with more questions. So if you're surprised by that, you're not Lynch fan.
I do try to respect his direction with this story. I've just glanced through the Mark Frost novel which is way more involved than I realised, it's extensive and comprehensive but not something you could read from cover to cover without skipping over shit. It's amazingly presented as well I haven't spent any time with it I just jumped into the Return after doing a basic original/FWWM rewatch.
Lucy eventually has her baby who turns out to be Michael Cera, which is fucking perfect and hilarious considering he wasn't even born when the series was on, neither was Amanda Seyfried, which of course makes sense in the context of the show. Lucy and Andy have a few tedious moments but Andy proves useful when he's transported to the Lodge to speak with the Giant. He's braver now and sort of stalwart. I'm not sure I was all that thrilled with Bob and Coop's final confrontation, with the kid from England with the green glove. That was pure Lynch I guess. James's insufferable song isn't so insufferable this time around, but the Maddy/Donna clones on backup are kind of creepy. Donna's little sister Gersten isn't really recognisable, apparently Alicia Witt reprised the role and was barely identifiable. The books seem to hold way too much pertinent info to explain who we're looking at in the new series, I didn't feel like I was tuning out so much to miss who was whom or what was happening. The first episodes were triumphant so it was sad to have dips in the story where certain aspects or characters become too tedious or pointless. The randoms in the Road House every episode were like tapestry to add some vague backstory at times, i.e. that Billy guy who was too disgusting to look at. I suppose this was all part of the melodrama and the soapy nature of the original. I don't know. I guess I'll peruse the books once I have both. There's a thousand more levels now with these texts.
Twin Peaks is a labour of love for the fans. You either get it, or ya don't. I don't think there's any such thing as a "casual" Peaks fan.
Addendum. Reading the diary implies now, by the logic above, Shelly married Leo at 15, if she was Bobby's age, as Laura mentions Shelley as Leo's wife well before Laura's sixteenth. Unless Bobby dating her happened when Shelley was roughly 17. So splitting hairs might be appropriate. I don't know why it bothers me because it was so much easier to assume Bobby was banging an older woman.
Laura Palmer is the type of character people resonated with so much they basically fell in love with her, much like Lynch did. Her dichotomy was so complex and not a total cliche, she was unique but still the embodiment of the All American Girl. She had a reason for exploring her darker nature: the darkness was out to devour her and by harnessing it she could possibly survive it. Until, in a sense, she didn't. Fire Walk With Me eventually ends with Cooper comforting her while her angel arrives, but in essence, they're both still confined. So Coop being trapped in the Lodge forever was something as a fan you never truly got over.
The rest of the town comes out of the original series to varying degrees of misery, bar one couple - Shelly and Bobby. You really had the sense they were going to survive despite her being a waitress and him being the high school football captain. You don't really know how they even got together, other than Bobby's "professional" relationship with Leo, you assume he got closer to Shelly through this but it's never explored. According to the wiki, she and Bobby dated in high school and after Bobby cheated with Laura, she took off and met Leo and married him. This is in the Final Dossier by the by, I suppose as a response to no one getting their backstory. Laura's diary states she and Bobby were together at 14 and he drifted towards Shelley but I won't split hairs. You just accept they're having an affair, they're hot as fuck, their chemistry is off the charts and you're rooting for them to make it. You know Bobby and Laura were never going to make it. And once she's gone, Bobby still goes through a process of mourning and surfacing trauma from all she made him do. Laura's diary hints she's aware of Bobby and Shelly, and she doesn't care as she's sleeping with Leo anyway and filling in for Shelly so there's no love lost. But I wanted them to make it. They survive Leo and Bobby's basic immaturity, you're happy for them.
But they don't make it.
Cut to 25 years later and much to everyone's astonishment, we're getting a new Twin Peaks. I should mention here receiving the Missing Pieces was such a gift after having read the original screenplay, as we'd been left to believe this footage would never be seen. Most of it was as close to how I imagined it, but we don't get much more of Cooper's fate beyond another minute from the script. So I should've known. We do see Annie's fate and the fate of the ring. But with the new series, no one knew what to expect and it was brilliant as it was frustrating.
We only discover the result of Audrey's accident in the bank through dialogue; that she's been in a coma and allegedly raped by Coop/Bob to produce a son who plays somewhat of an integral role. (It seems to be a fan theory). What drove me nuts was Ben Horne's involvement with Donna Hayward's mother and him being Donna's real father, not to mention him being possibly dead by the end of the second season, was all glossed over. Maybe I missed some dialogue but nothing comes of Doc Hayward's assault, he ends up Skyping Truman's replacement, (his brother - Side note, yup all this shit's in the Final Dossier.) Richard has decided to carry on the drug trafficking legacy of the town, associating with some shady guy that ironically Shelly is dating now she's left Bobby offscreen even though they've since had a daughter Becky, who's also been sucked into the cocaine crowd in town and is in her own abusive relationship, Shelly playing a bleeding heart and letting her get away with shit. I was genuinely disappointed they failed to survive, even with Bobby becoming so law-abiding he ends up working for the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department. Mark Frost stated they divorced amicably after drifting apart, thus proving young love is doomed to end in tragedy.
And while you thought Hank would be stuck with Nadine forever, she has an about-face, shovels her way out of the shit thanks to Jacoby, who's gone bonkers, and lets Hank go. He immediately proposes to Norma and they live happily ever after. That was a nice moment, and you see Jacoby and Nadine have a moment that suggests they'll both end up alright in the long run. I like to think they both take off in his Winnebago and have some weird nonsexual, platonic companionship in their golden years. Nadine was a complicated character, you felt for Hank when she snapped out of her dumb delusional state she was a teenager and in love with Mike. Oh, and Mike ends up working in an employment office. That's about it for him. I think Lynch had enough sympathy for Nadine to not hang her out to dry. You think her watching Jacoby's rants is going to end in disaster and not an epiphany, and he had a certain affection for Norma and Hank not to leave them apart any longer.
The Return was a roller-coaster as we followed Coop's odyssey from the Lodge. We all kinda fell for Dougie Jones so it was nice he was kind of left behind to live with Diane's half sister. (I didn't even really pick up that was who she was in relation to the show. I didn't think she necessarily needed that obvious a link to anything. She was just some beleaguered wife living in Las Vegas who knows her husband is a gambler and a liar. I liked she just accepted the new Dougie and that Cooper did genuinely come to love her in his own weird way but obviously couldn't stay with her.)
I don't think we were meant to get a conclusive ending for Cooper. Just seeing him wake from his coma and that he's left the Lodge was a beautiful moment, even if he basically goes back in looking for Laura. Him trying to "save" her from that moment was eerily romantic and heartbreaking too. But we're left with more questions. So if you're surprised by that, you're not Lynch fan.
I do try to respect his direction with this story. I've just glanced through the Mark Frost novel which is way more involved than I realised, it's extensive and comprehensive but not something you could read from cover to cover without skipping over shit. It's amazingly presented as well I haven't spent any time with it I just jumped into the Return after doing a basic original/FWWM rewatch.
Lucy eventually has her baby who turns out to be Michael Cera, which is fucking perfect and hilarious considering he wasn't even born when the series was on, neither was Amanda Seyfried, which of course makes sense in the context of the show. Lucy and Andy have a few tedious moments but Andy proves useful when he's transported to the Lodge to speak with the Giant. He's braver now and sort of stalwart. I'm not sure I was all that thrilled with Bob and Coop's final confrontation, with the kid from England with the green glove. That was pure Lynch I guess. James's insufferable song isn't so insufferable this time around, but the Maddy/Donna clones on backup are kind of creepy. Donna's little sister Gersten isn't really recognisable, apparently Alicia Witt reprised the role and was barely identifiable. The books seem to hold way too much pertinent info to explain who we're looking at in the new series, I didn't feel like I was tuning out so much to miss who was whom or what was happening. The first episodes were triumphant so it was sad to have dips in the story where certain aspects or characters become too tedious or pointless. The randoms in the Road House every episode were like tapestry to add some vague backstory at times, i.e. that Billy guy who was too disgusting to look at. I suppose this was all part of the melodrama and the soapy nature of the original. I don't know. I guess I'll peruse the books once I have both. There's a thousand more levels now with these texts.
Twin Peaks is a labour of love for the fans. You either get it, or ya don't. I don't think there's any such thing as a "casual" Peaks fan.
Addendum. Reading the diary implies now, by the logic above, Shelly married Leo at 15, if she was Bobby's age, as Laura mentions Shelley as Leo's wife well before Laura's sixteenth. Unless Bobby dating her happened when Shelley was roughly 17. So splitting hairs might be appropriate. I don't know why it bothers me because it was so much easier to assume Bobby was banging an older woman.
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