I realised while I find certain aspects of this topic kind of whatever, I don't really understand the use of accidental incest in a story as a huge, shocking twist. I haven't seen either version of Old Boy, the good one or the bad one, I only know from a YouTuber's in depth comparative study what the storyline is and the conceit of the whole thing. The bad guy gets revenge on the good guy by tricking him into sleeping with his long lost, estranged daughter. All because the good guy outed the bad guy for sleeping with his sister who later killed herself. The remake was probably worse as it contained a lot more incest on top of the protagonist sleeping with his daughter.
Old Boy's (2003) supposed to be a great movie, and I don't doubt that, I just feel really weirded out about the whole whoops, slept with my kid/sibling thing, especially when it's implied they continue to have a relationship and don't stop there. It's also a conceit of a game called 12 Minutes, only the husband and wife turn out to be half-siblings, and she's due to have a kid. I don't like it as a twist. I don't know why, it creeps me out and I think it's stupid and over the top. And in both cases, hypnotism is used to trick people into forgetting the truth, which is even more fucked up and sad. Or they consider just... going on as usual... Okay.
Meanwhile, I sit on a Degrassi subreddit where people complain about two kids who aren't blood relatives continuing a relationship after their respective parents get married. That wasn't so shocking, not as much as when a pair of twins, Declan and Fiona, are seen kissing at a party. (She kisses him for attention and faints, it's too much). I hated it. It was when the show was falling off the realism rails. But I wasn't so bugged by step siblings still having a relationship that is only incestuous in terms of legalities. (Some places count fostered and adopted kids as legal siblings who can't have a relationship either). That just bummed me out in terms of the kids having a relationship first that gets railroaded by their own parents who have the control in the situation. When I heard about it happening in real life, I felt sorry for those kids. It would be worst to meet someone you don't know and discover you were related, and that happens more than it should. (Maybe if people calmed down on their rutting and stopped having so many unwanted kids this wouldn't be as big an issue). Plus, it's the only way people who watch incest porn can cope with it: step siblings/parents only. I get it, and I know some people really are there for the "real thing" so to speak, so this is a cop out to them.
In the interest of shit being taboo, this stuff still really upsets people even when it's entirely fictional. People finding out friends they respected wrote Supernatural slash fic of the two brothers were somehow so offended they had to ask Reddit if they were being too much by getting angry over it. If you're screwing around so to speak with fictional characters, that's whatever. I don't advise you play this game with actual people, which some people stupidly do to YouTubers, and I agree, if they find it offensive, don't put it out there. I'm already annoyed with you stealing fictional characters to smoosh together like GI Joe and Captain America dolls. Don't do it to real people, put it online and expect them to be totally cool with it. Please. I know some find it hilarious, but it's not. I more just find it so amusing it's frowned upon in fiction as being over the top when it's genuinely offensive in real life. Also, Jeremy Irons may be using the very old fashioned definition of incest that requires two blood relatives to have a kid, so if that doesn't happen, it's not incest. The law wouldn't be on his side.
I could go on about furries etc but I'm not one to judge on that. People don't get the idea of anthropomorphism, it's more to do with the human traits and animal traits blended together, it's not a gateway to bestiality or anything. If you're that dumb about it, you've missed the point, and it's not necessarily even a sexual thing either. I read somewhere Bjork found animal documentaries sexy, like she just loves nature on a different level, I don't see that as being a case for her having tendencies, but you can see people reading that into it, which they often do because nuance doesn't exist to them. Anime porn caters to a lot of tastes and that is what it is. It's the sex part, not the animal part. I don't openly advocate for the alternatives since nobody can agree on whether they mitigate certain offenses. I was more curious if certain men joined a clergy knowing they could get away with molesting children, and if becoming ordained was a way to facilitate that and get away with it within the institution's policy of covering it all up, if that explained why the church seemed to have way too many child molesters. The church has a lot to answer for, so if you're stressing over people getting off to furry porn, your priorities are out of whack, son.
I only put this here since it was about a movie.
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